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Post by bradmhendrickson on May 20, 2007 11:25:51 GMT -5
thanks for the heads up 99situner. I went out last night by myself and shot 17 carp.
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Post by bradmhendrickson on May 20, 2007 17:17:07 GMT -5
If anyone ever wants to shoot some carp let me know. My friends usually back out on me last minute and I end up going by myself.
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Post by Terry on May 21, 2007 8:06:50 GMT -5
What exactly do you do with them. I have never met anybody who eats them
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Post by newfisher on May 21, 2007 18:49:49 GMT -5
Yes, you can eat carp, though I've never tried it myself because I have yet to catch one. There are lots of websites with recipes for it; for example www.activeangler.com/resources/cooking/recipes/carp/carp_index.aspApparently carp was once a popular food fish and was actively stocked years ago, and it is still a delicacy in some other countries. Carp are bottom feeders like catfish, so you'd want to be careful where you get them and not eat too many. I'd like to try to catch (and eat) some carp at Struble too but with rod and reel, not bowfishing. From the carp fishing websites such as www.carpanglersgroup.com, carp fishing with a rod and reel sounds like fun, giving a better chance to catch large fish than we have in bass fishing. I've tried a couple times at some other places in the area but no luck yet. I'm reading that there are a lot of carp at Struble -- could you give me any pointers about the area? In the same places as the catfish? Does anybody else on this board do carp fishing with rod and reel?
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Post by bradmhendrickson on May 21, 2007 20:08:48 GMT -5
fish the shallows at night. No you can't eat them. Not in PA. Too much pollution.
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Post by GordonsOwner on May 23, 2007 8:03:05 GMT -5
Hey brad, do you have a blue pickup truck? Older one? I think I saw you heading out there the other night, If it was you I saw someone in a flatbottom moving along the shallows in that first 'cove' to the right of the boat dock maybe an hour or so before dark? I was just pulling in as you (if it was you) were heading out in your boat. Looks like you did pretty good!! Its a shame there are so many there because they are all pretty small, about the biggest ones I see in your pic are the biggest I've hooked into as well.
I fish struble a LOT with a rod and reel. You can catch them year-round, but the best of it is just about over. They have been spawing for the past week or so, and are just stacked up in the shallows, I was catching 4 -5 a day in a couple hours. They are real finicky though, bite real soft and usually dont commit like a catfish would, where they take the bait and run. Best bet is to just set up a sliding sinker so they cant feel the weight, and throw out some corn on a smaller size hook (i usually usea 6 or 4) just cover the whole thing in corn. Or lately been using bread balls with vanilla flavoring. Just toss it out and hang out, fish for some bluegills or soemthing while waiting for some action.
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Post by newfisher on May 23, 2007 15:46:10 GMT -5
Thanks to both of you. I'll give it a try this weekend.
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Post by bradmhendrickson on May 23, 2007 17:40:30 GMT -5
yeah that was me 99situner. We're going out on friday. I know what you mean about not being so big. I could probably never put a dent in the population but I will try.
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Post by Fisherman on May 23, 2007 21:00:47 GMT -5
Since you use a bow in bowfishing, are you required to have the hunters saftey course? I know it's a stupid question but I'm just curious because I'm taking the Hunters Saftey Course June 1st I think it's actually by Marsh Creek. After the course we'll be heading out to do some fishing.
But anyway I think it looks fun and interesting and I want to get into it.
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Post by Midnitebasser on May 24, 2007 6:53:24 GMT -5
Without looking it up I'd say no because you don't need a hunting license to bow fish unless they have changed the rules since the last time I went, which was over 25 years ago but it is a lot of fun.
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Post by GordonsOwner on May 24, 2007 7:31:06 GMT -5
No hunting license or safety course required. Just be smart about it. Heres the only thing the regs book says about bowfishing:
Bow and arrow (including compound and crossbows) may be used for taking ONLY carp and suckers on all commonwealth waters, day and night, except in approved trout waters during the closed season and in special regulation waters. On the Delaware River, catfish and herring (shad excepted) may also be taken with bow and arrow (including compound and crossbow), spear or gig, except within 275 yards of an eel weir...
..and further back non bow related, but a good note on anyone hoping to shoot a carp...It is unlawful to...to kill any fish and fail to make a reasonable effort to lawfully dispose of it.
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Post by Fisherman on May 24, 2007 9:02:51 GMT -5
99situner,
Regarding your post above on how to catch carp I saw that you add vanilla extract or flavoring to your bread. Somebody on the stream was using corn with vanilla extract and pulling out trout left and right. A guy upstream said adding extract to any bait is illegal? Or is it only legal to add it to bread balls? I just don't want to be using corn with vanilla extract and then find out that it's illegal and I get fined for it.
Edit: Towards disposing carp that were caught bowfishing, you guys all take them to some sancturary to feed injured birds?
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Post by GordonsOwner on May 24, 2007 9:56:47 GMT -5
Fisherman, I very well might be wrong, but I don't believe it is illegal to put extract or ANYTHING for that matter into your bait with exception to being in a special regs area for trout. I know plenty of guys who mix up there own dough baits for trout and carp alike, using all kinds of scented extracts and formulas including hatchery pellets, if anything that should be illegal! lol!!! but I wouldnt think using vanilla extract would be much different from using a prebottled, fish intended kind of off the shelf scent, for instance 'trout gravy'
I could be wrong, but by scanning the regs book again I see nothing in the general regs that prohibit that.
When I posted that above was actually after the first time I ever tried it, and it did work, very well! I just roll up a tight ball of bread onto my hook, then dip it into the vanilla flavoring to give it some scent. For the future I am probably just going to make up a batch ahead of time and use it as needed so I dont have to carry around a little bottle of extract !!
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Post by Fisherman on May 24, 2007 10:48:22 GMT -5
I've never used doughballs before when fishing for carp. I usually use frozen corn. This summer I'm going to be heading out to do some carp fishing at Green Lane Res. - I've always caught some lunkers out of there. I'll have to try dougballs with extract up there. I would imagine a "doughball" is just a piece of bread that is wet and rolled up into a ball - or at least I think it is. Lol
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Post by GordonsOwner on May 24, 2007 12:31:42 GMT -5
actually I've found that regular white bread works best, (not italian lol) just dont use the crust. keep it in a bag so it doesnt start to dry out, and just mold it around the hook and compress it with your fingers BEFORE even touching it to water. Put the vanilla on after its all compressed on the hook, I've found it actually stays on the hook as good as, or better than dough baits you buy! once it gets wet then it swells and will leave a nice stink stream surrounding it! I'm gonna post up some pics here shortly of some I caught the other week out of struble
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