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Post by fishingpaul on Jul 17, 2016 20:04:34 GMT -5
In the late 80s through the 90s I took great pleasure in exploring small streams in upstate NY and PA searching for wild trout; We called this Lewis and Clarking.
I got to the point where a 4" wild brook,rainbow or brown was more valuable to me than a 10 pound great Lakes brown.
I have found that most landowners will no longer grant permission to fish their land any longer. I once had a farmer let me camp on his land for 3 days while I explored his stream.
What happened, why did people change?
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Post by AC on Jul 18, 2016 6:03:45 GMT -5
I think the most part of it is people that already used the land, and left trash, or didn't ask to use it at all. My neighbor has a nice plot of land, and all the deer run along the edge of my smaller lot, so I wanted to know if he would allow us to hunt one on his side. He replied with if we had asked him 10-15 years ago, he'd let us run around all over that place, and hunt. Part of the problem was other neighbors hunting on his land, and leaving wounded deer run around, and trash all over. Now he has a posted sign every 200 feet, so we'll never use that again. I had the get something that I lost on his side so I walked over there, and the next day there was a new posted sign and some ribbon marking the property line.
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Post by fishingpaul on Jul 18, 2016 6:58:47 GMT -5
I suppose your right. I have been trying to get access to a creek a little north of Reading. I knocked on the front door and was greeted with unbelievable hostility, I just wanted to fish not borrow money.
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Post by icemole on Jul 18, 2016 11:25:06 GMT -5
In the old days the farmers/landowners looked upon ownership as more of a caretaker position - todays landowners look at it more as it's mine buy your own.
I applaud you for asking - most fishermen don't. I'm on another site and even though many know it is wrong they still fish where they please.
PM me what creek maybe I can help with a contact
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Post by bassfever on Jul 18, 2016 11:37:48 GMT -5
Lawyers happened. Lawsuits, Insurance claims. Along with people trashing the property. Very unfortunate for people who respect the property, and the owner.
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Post by Chip on Jul 23, 2016 8:57:21 GMT -5
In the old days the farmers/landowners looked upon ownership as more of a caretaker position - todays landowners look at it more as it's mine buy your own. Lawyers happened. Lawsuits, Insurance claims. Along with people trashing the property. Very unfortunate for people who respect the property, and the owner. Little bit of both. Too many people around here and too much pressure. Combine that with "newcomers" to the area creating there own little private, exclusive compounds and access has become a thing of the past. This area has lost its outdoorsman heritage. I'm just biding my time until I retire then I'm going to relocate to someplace like the carolinas when I retire.
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