Looking to try something a little different this year. Last year I got into UL and panfishing with some new tackle and techniques - absolutely love it, but still learning.
This year I'm looking to try some drop shotting. Looking for some advice on size, type, and brand of hooks and weights, techniques and plastics that work the best. I usually wade and/or fish from the shore. I'd like to be able to drop shot for bass as well as panfish, so any advice is most welcome.
I actually just started drop-shotting last year and I am so glad I did. Honestly; it paid off big-time on a few slow days. I caught a few really nice Bass at Chambers on the Drop Shot so it had big dividends. After last season I will ALWAYS have a drop shot rigged up on my boat.
My actual set-up is a 6-9 ML Spinning combo with 8 lb test Flouroclear. For hooks I use a gamakatsu 1/0 drop shot hook and typically a 1/4 oz BPS drop shot weight (round). I was normally fishing in about 7-8 feet of water so the 1/4 oz may have been overkill but I didnt want to stock 3-4 different weights. I felt confident with the 1/4 oz though because I could feel it on the bottom and certainly felt the sometimes very light bites on the bait (it was also beneficial on windy days). But the most important part of course was the bait that I used; the Berkley Powerbait Twitchtail Minnow. I also used the Yum Kill Shots a few times and had good results but the Twitchtail Minnow seemed to draw many more strikes. I hope this info helps!
frogman good stuff - exactly what i was looking for. never used the baits you mentioned but will definitely check them out and give them a try. i use a similar rig for jigging - shimano 6'8" combo, 6lb braid with 6lb fluorocarbon leader - cuts down on the bird's nests and i still have good feel for the slight bite. thanks again. much appreciated.
Post by Harry Miles on Dec 29, 2015 15:29:29 GMT -5
I use the VMC spinshot hooks for dropshotting, makes rigging everything a lot easier. Tie the top eye to your line as normal, use an overhand knot to tie your leader with dropshot weight. That way if your weight gets snagged, you'll still get your hook and bait back. They also make a powershot version of the hook that allows you to t-rig your bait.
I dont think weights matter as much with dropshotting as long as their heavy enough to get to the bottom (need heavier weights for water with current). Tungsten lets you feel the bottom better, but its not particularly helpful in this application. Pick the shape of the weight based on the the bottom of the water you're fishing.
Here's the style of sinkers I use (except the BPS brand). The way these are designed if you get stuck the line will pull through the sinker and you'll also save the rest of your rig (hook and bait etc.). I just watched a video yesterday where Edwin Evers was explaining his Drop Shot setup and he stated that Tungsten weights aren't necessary for this rig; they are way overpriced and not needed with drop shotting. I love tungsten weights for Texas Rigs but no way I am spending that kind of money for something that doesn't benefit you when drop shotting. So I agree 100% with Harry when he says Tungsten isn't necessary. As far as my rig I just tie a Palomar knot for the hook and leave a long tag end. Also; run the tag end back through the hook eye before tying on the weight and it keeps the hook pointing straight out 100% of the time.
I can't honestly say that I fish for panfish often so I cannot offer advice. The only panfish bait I carry is the Berkley Gulp Crickets with a 1/32 oz. jig head. Those things are like candy to panfish. I actually had two days in a row this past season where I caught 60+ bluegills each day. With action like that I don't think I need other panfish baits; haha!
I love drop shotting and have pulled a few 5 lbers out of marsh creek using it.
Rods: In my option really any rod around 7 feet with a ML-M action works well for this technique. If you want any suggestions feel free to ask but there are many good choices out there at very reasonable prices.
Hooks: I have 2 favorites for hooks. 1. If you want to nose hook the bait these are great: www.tacklewarehouse.com/Owner_Mosquito_Hooks/descpage-OMOS.html I like them in a number 1 or a 1/0 size. 2. If you want to texas rig the bait(my favorite way) these are the best: www.tacklewarehouse.com/Roboworm_Rebarb_Hooks/descpage-RWRBH.html I like them in the 2/0 size and if you are using a little bigger bait then I may move up to a 3/0. Don't be afraid to use lighter hooks with this technique, you are supposed to let the fish tire themselves out before bringing them in. You will lose more worms when no hooking it because them fish will fling it off during the fight but sometimes that is the only way they want it.
Plastics: I really only se Roboworms because I have caught so many fish on them that I see no reason to change. www.tacklewarehouse.com/Roboworm_Straight_Tail_Worms/descpage-RW45ST.html#multiview. My 2 favorite colors for Marsh Creek are Bait Ball for when the water starts to get algae blooms and M.M.III for when the water is a little cleaner. If you want to fish some other lakes around us a simple green pumpkin worm works well(especially on the Nock). As for size, I like both but seem to catch more when using the 4.5 in size and better size on the 6 in.
Techniques: 1. Nose hook the bait: this gives the bait very good action and can be deadly on high pressure, blue bird days when the wish are finicky 2. Texas rigging the bait: this has a little bit less action but still has a lot and when the fish don't care I will use this because the worms last longer(I always start out the day using this and if it does work I will change to nose hooking it or wacky rigging it.) 3. Wacky rigging the bait: this is also great on high pressure, blue bird days because the fall rate of the bait is about twice as long and the tips of the worm move lots of water.
Where to fish it: I have caught fish in just about every type of structure and cover there is. I love fishing it down a bank and when you hit a little patch of gravel or rock, stop it and just shake it. It comes through wood very well and you can stop it anywhere along the tree and shake it and it will call fish in from all over the tree. It can be great fished on the edges of grass and flipped into holes in the grass. Honestly, it is probably the most versatile rig their is in bass fishing so don't be afraid to throw it into something because it will work and shouldn't have a problem coming out.
I hope this helps and good luck learning this wonderful technique, if you have any questions feel free to ask.
fishboy wow!!! the only thing missing was a video of you demo-ing everything - maybe in the future? great tips and advice and extra thanks for including the links - makes it so much easier to match what you're describing. really, over the top!!! thanks for sharing and i'll be sure to give some of your tips/tricks a try. tight lines!!
Post by hawghunters on Jan 5, 2016 14:19:17 GMT -5
I'll second just about everything that was stated above. Personally I prefer the roboworms over drop shot minnows, but I think it depends on the waterway. I highly recommend trying the texas rig drop shot fishboy52 mentioned, especially around trees. The texas rigged drop shot out fished pitching jigs around trees this year for me, especially in high pressure areas. I also suggest trying some chartreuse dippin die and using that on the tail of your drop shot baits. It seems to work pretty well and highlights the tail of the bait when you're twitching it.
I really like this brand: www.tacklewarehouse.com/JJs_Magic_Dippin_Dye/descpage-JJM.html#multiview in the chartreuse color and the clear if you are just looking to add scent. Just be careful because any dye designed for fishing stains everything ie. carpet, seats, rods, reels and this thing is probably the stinkiest dye ever created. If you are careful with it it will work great and will put more fish in the boat.
I finally got the perfect day (and nerve) to try the drop shot for the first time today on MC. I was out from noon to 2:00, low wind, and really clear water - like I can't remember the water being this clear for this long a period - like it's almost mid-July and I've seen hardly any algae bloom.
I rigged a 5" watermelon KVD worm on a #2 EWG offset hook so I could stay weedless with a 1/4 oz weight. I caught two on the first two casts - what a rush doing something new that actually worked!!! Caught six in all, two near 2 lbs, 3 over/under a pound, and one dink. Most were caught at least 50-60' offshore - I have no idea how deep.
Thanks to all for your excellent advise/tips. Happy to add this method to my arsenal.